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Post by BugHunter on Mar 15, 2004 0:01:20 GMT -5
Well i don't know about the rest of you guys, but i've always thought of Dan as an ass ;D
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Post by palla on Mar 15, 2004 15:57:26 GMT -5
Well...
*cough cough*
Sometimes, but not always. He's got his good points.
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Post by copyKatt on Mar 15, 2004 16:03:42 GMT -5
alright bughunter, enough. if you want to think of people as morons and asses, keep it to yourself, will ya?
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Post by Dr. Dan on Mar 15, 2004 17:37:37 GMT -5
Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit. Alright, can we all just agree that people can't cast spells and astrology is bullshit? While we're at it, let's stop using the phrase "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual." Every time I hear anyone call themselves "spiritual," it's just after they mention astrology and just before I land a flying elbow to their ovaries (as anyone who believes in astrology is undoubtedly a woman who needs to be punched in the crotch). Most people who read horoscopes also buy into other new age crap like tarot cards and self-healing. Self healing? Self healing was perfected by Rambo in Rambo: First Blood when he stitched his arm shut after he cracked a kid's back while jumping off a cliff (and the only reason his arm split open was because he's so tough he wanted to make the bad guys think they had a chance, but yeah right.. it was like Rambo sent them all Christmas cards, but instead of cards it was murder). The other thing that pisses me off about horoscopes is that some people make financial decisions based off them. Re-read that sentence a few times until the implications set in. Yes, there are mouth-breathers out there who literally believe clumps of rocks and dirt floating around pockets of gas have anything to do with their stocks and lottery winnings.   Ever notice how people ask you what sign you are and always say "I knew it" only after you tell them which one? That's because they're full of shit. It doesn't matter what sign you tell them you are, they'll always say "yeah, you're totally a [fill in asinine symbol], I can tell." No, you can't tell because you're an idiot. I hate it when people ask me what "sign" I am. You want to know what my sign is? Here: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Astrological signs are based off arbitrary Zodiac symbols drawn by people who also believed that light from stars came from vents on burning chariot wheels. I mean, do you people even read this shit? Here's a sample horoscope I found on some sap-magnet website: "Creative energy, especially involving writing or speaking, could be overflowing within you today. Ideas could be coming thick and fast, dear Leo. You might want to call some old friends and discuss your thoughts with them." Creative energy? What the hell is creative energy? Also, notice how the tone is set by the use of "...dear Leo," as if some ancient sage (aka, fat "Lord of the Rings" nerd) was addressing a dear old friend (that would be you, the lonely house wife), at which point you would feel vindicated in spending $19.95 on your newly acquired Brazilian power crystal, just as an executive from a psychic hotline does a line of coke off a hooker's ass with the millions he's raked in from morons like you. I especially like the "could be overflowing" part, which covers the astrologer's ass in the unlikely event that the horoscope was horse shit and has nothing to do with anyone or anything in the universe. Of course, that would constitute fraud, so thankfully we have the doctrine of uncertainty to protect psychics everywhere from malpractice lawsuits. Otherwise an entire industry of aging hippies and their clientele comprised of middle-class 16 year old girls and bored house wives trudging aimlessly from one rebellious new-age religion to the next would have to find a new hobby. Who knows? They might even get jobs. 225,120 planets were aligned when this article was written, affecting precisely dick. |
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Post by Cobra5 on Mar 15, 2004 18:02:34 GMT -5
My, that was rather bad-mouthed. Although I agree with everyword of it. Every sing word.
I mean, I used to preach to heather every day about it, 'cuase she was reading all this "You can tell if you are half-animal when..." followed by "The culture and behavior of half animals" Which litteral said "They might be [insert trait] but they might not] over and over and over... Written by a half-animal/half-human named "Crystal~Myst" or something... and she was totally buying into it, believe every word on the paper...
Then she starting going into how she believes in witchcraft and wants it to be her new religon... or something... I don't even want to ask. I'll just go into denial... its easier.
People believe in these things only because they want them to be true. They have a word for people like that... "Gullible".
You know, I wanted to start a thing like that. I would make up some crap about... I dunno... people being half alien. Then I'd make a whole website about it. I bet you I could get at LEAST 500 people to full-heartedly believe in it. Becuase just like this "Crystal~myst" I had some idle time and came up with some cool day dreams, then began telling other people it was real. And they will believe you if you say its real. After all, this is the internet. I could make any old thing up, off the top of my head... and people WILL follow. No offence inteded when I say this, but... people like Heather. I know its ok for people to believe in what they want, but really... gullibility is a very bad thing. I mean just today in health some kid came up to heather saying that the government was in on columbine, intentionally mis-uses gun saftey laws and corupts social order to promote the power of the USD. And she totally bought into it. Again, sorry to use you as an example Heather, but all feelings aside, you are a very gullible person.
Oh well. I suppose there are worse character traits a person could have.
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Post by Dr. Dan on Mar 15, 2004 18:20:29 GMT -5
Yeah it was bad-mouthed, sorry about that, it was just how the article went.
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Post by Cobra5 on Mar 15, 2004 18:25:38 GMT -5
It's an article? I thought you wrote it for a second... but when I read that part about what the psychic hotline dude did with the millions I kind thought perhaps you didn't write it...  Oh, and by the way, the psychic hotline dosn't exist anymore. They were shut down and sued for fraud. |
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Post by Dr. Dan on Mar 15, 2004 18:35:59 GMT -5
No I didnt write it, I found it. Pretty good though huh? I thought it summed it up nicely.  |
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Post by Cobra5 on Mar 15, 2004 19:16:24 GMT -5
Yes, it summed it up perfectly. better then I could've done. Which means a lot... I normally wouldn't admit that. Also, I'd like to apologize for using heather as an example. I didn't know she would be truely hurt, I didn't think of it as anything more then gently teasing. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, really. |
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Post by palla on Mar 15, 2004 22:13:20 GMT -5
Oh this ought to be an interesting reply.  1. Will, I did not say that I wanted Wicca/witchcraft to be my "new religion". I was just talking about how there were certain things about the religion that I agreed. 2. You (Dan, Will, etc.) go on about how this stuff is all made up, how witchcraft is made up (Will said that) and Wicca is made up (not a religion at all). Well, that's your opinion and while it makes me angry, it's yours and you're entitled to it. But, let me point something out: other religions are made up too (Christianity, Budhism, etc.). That is all "bullshit" to some other person. 3. Before you say something about no toleration about other religion(s), I want to say that that is one of the beliefs of Wicca: do not mock others' beliefs. That is a good one. And, I do not "mock" others' religion, just get angry when someone preaches on endlessly about them after I have asked them not to. 4. Now, to touch on the were-beast part that Will mentioned. Me believing in something like that is the same as, say, Francis believing in angels. I know what some of you think about supernatural beings (angels or were-beasts), but hey, you shouldn't mock a person's beliefs (as stated above). Remember, three times three! (If you understand what that is refering to, you are a lot more understanding than I thought previosuly. |
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Post by BugHunter on Mar 16, 2004 0:09:07 GMT -5
Sigh...since i am trying to follow the ways of God, I'm gonna go take a really hard breather and free my thoughts from anger and try to rethink everything rationally before i start typing.  As the only Christian here, I will represent. ok, my first thoughts are on this article. The guy seems like an a-hole who easily gives into anger and his opinions on the subject although biased, ignorant, and completely insensitive, does have a point, somewhere... Now i dont want to completely diss astrology and whatnot, since they have helped some people in the world, but i'm not going to say that they're stuff i believe and follow fullheartedly. But one thing though, I would never follow the words of a man with wrath no matter how rational he sounds. Second, now why should Christianity be bullshit? Christianity is not bullshit (in the way its suppost to be). The way of the Lord is truth and His words and teachings are things you can FULLY agree with and not say only these specific things sound good or only these things sound right like in your Wicca or witchcraft. It ALL is rational and makes SENSE. Just read a few pages in the Bible. And do you, my friends, think that I am gullible? Do I, Francis Acupan, seem like a person who would blindly follow something that was completely stupid? Am I an uneducated moron? And even if i did believe in angels, whats wrong with that? Does that automatically make me crazy? There's nothing wrong with were-beasts either. They all have a place in our thoughts and imaginations, maybe just in different forms, but hey, we're all not in asylums right? oh yea, there's a very very thin line between mocking a religion and getting pist off when its brought up. Do you not mock something if you're pist off about it? I dont know about you guys, but I've been seeing things in a much better light ever since i started following God. You see, when you follow instead the ways of guys like the one who wrote the above article, it'll be no surprise that you take things so negatively. Or find yourself constantly depressed. Or find yourself constantly questioning things (in the bad way. curiousity is good). Or find yourselves not knowing what to believe, or believing nothing at all. As the great Einstein once said: "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."
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Post by palla on Mar 16, 2004 6:47:53 GMT -5
I didn't, in so many words, call Christianity bullshit, merely that all religions were "made up" at one point or another and still are, in someone's frame of mind. The way of the Goddess is truth as well, my friend. It's just a few more of her ways make sense than others. You know, reading back on this I think someone will make the comment about a rebellion against the "male" society...well, whatever, think what you want.  And Francis, I have read the Bible before. While you may think it is all believable, I just don't buy it. Who said anything about imagination? And do you not mock a person's right of religion when you advertise it to them over and over again, even after they have asked you, respectfully, not to? [quote[I dont know about you guys, but I've been seeing things in a much better light ever since i started following God. You see, when you follow instead the ways of guys like the one who wrote the above article, it'll be no surprise that you take things so negatively. Or find yourself constantly depressed. Or find yourself constantly questioning things (in the bad way. curiousity is good). Or find yourselves not knowing what to believe, or believing nothing at all.[/quote] Do you not think that it is piossible to feel that way if you are of a different religion? Other people feel the same as you do, though they invoke a different name or are speaking of a different God (or Goddess). |
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Post by Tassatul on Mar 16, 2004 13:18:59 GMT -5
In mild defence of Maddox(the guy who wrote this article, I check his website often) you cant take everything he says seriously. You cant believe that he full-heartedly believes in everything he writes either. Its just something he does to get a reaction, he takes a basic idea (ie, that astrology as a way to predict the future is fake) and writes in the extreme, cussing and cursing everything to do with it. The best way to react to Maddox's articles it to treat them as a joke, I think, and just laugh at them, rather than get angry and defensive. By the way, heres Maddox's website in case anyone wants to read more stuff by him. Remember, take it as a joke. ;D maddox.xmission.com/Ill try not to discuss religion too much, as it can upset easily. I am Christian, according to my parents, but if you asked me Im more agnostic. Mostly im too skeptical to just 'believe', as is required by some religions. Holy moments and actions can just as easily be explained away by science, sooo. . . Second, now why should Christianity be bullshit? Christianity is not bullshit (in the way its suppost to be). The way of the Lord is truth and His words and teachings are things you can FULLY agree with and not say only these specific things sound good or only these things sound right like in your Wicca or witchcraft. It ALL is rational and makes SENSE. Just read a few pages in the Bible. Just a comment here, BugHunter, try not to be upset You say that mocking another religion is bad, and that everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Then you say that the Bible makes full sence and is rational, and other 'religions' only take parts that sound correct. That sounds to me like youre implying that Christianity is better. |
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Post by Dr. Dan on Mar 16, 2004 13:30:37 GMT -5
Ok...religion is a belief based on faith...faith meaning that there is questionable, hardly any, or no proof to back up the claims of a religion.
Christianity has the bible, a scripture written that denotes what God's lessons and story's to the people were. Other religions have different 'proofs' as well, such as the Corah and the Toran (sp?) and the ancient artifacts and locations (that millions and millions of people die for, and have been for hundreds of years to gain control of a religious site). Whether or not the religion is 'made up' or not dosnt really matter -- considering people are dying for their religions every day (with the execption of Buddists, of course).
You heather, have taken a fantasy book (which you are so fond of) and conjured up another fanticiful realm with wear-creatures and vampires and dared to all it a religion? What proof do you have -- none -- of the existance of such creatures. The claims have been consistantly dis-prooved over and over agian, and if you choose to ignore the research of such things, then it is your beliefs are comprised and backed by your ingornace.
There are no people who, in this day and age, fight and die for their beliefs in witches and warlocks. There are no people who will take a book and claim that it is the Scripture of Witchcraft (which is, in essence, the worshiping of the devil). Pegans are NOT devil worshippers, and in actual fact the word "Pagan" was used in ancient times to describe a group of people who worshipped more than one God. The definition of that over the years has been modified and skewed into the direction of devil worshipping, and really into something that dosnt exist.
I am not one to contest with religions, because I myself have to taken one fully to heart yet, but through my experience and research, I can say that your beliefs heather, are not an option for me to take when it comes to what religion I want to follow, because even though religion is based on faith, the faith is never unfounded. There are always some instances, miricles, occurances, strange things that have not been disprooven by science and research. To the best of my knowledge, there has never ever been a prooven documented case of any sort of 'wear' creature (other than perhaps the NY Tabloids...), and if vampires ARE real, then their leader, Dracula, is not much of a leader, becuase his true dirty dealings were uncovered and shown to the world as NOT being 'vampiric' but merely sick and disturbing. There IS however, evidence that a man named Jesus DID exist, and a man named Moses. There are scriptures 'prooving' that the aposotles of christ did once live. His "miricles" -- well getting into that might be a little iffy cause francis will probably beat me down. If you want my opinion on miricles, I'll be happy to share..but only if you guys dont mind.
So yeah, thats what I think...
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Post by palla on Mar 16, 2004 13:38:55 GMT -5
Other religions have different 'proofs' as well, such as the Corah and the Toran (sp?) Switch that around. It's Koran and Torrah. I did not say that were-beasts and vampirism is a religion. Wicca is a religion. Witchcraft is NOT Satanism. Satanism is a whole different religion in and of itself. Anyone who claims they pratice Wicca/Witchcraft and worship a/the Devil, they are liars and do not understand the truth. [edit]As to your comments about vampirism, it is a lifestyle, not a religion. You might think it is sick and distrubing, but that depends on how "sever" the person is.[/edit] |
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As the only Christian here, I will represent.
And Francis, I have read the Bible before. While you may think it is all believable, I just don't buy it.
